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Nigel Kellow's avatar

Morning DJ. As a medical expert witness in clinical negligence cases I’d like to discuss this with you. I understand the message you’re trying to get across but it doesn’t quite work, with a notable reason being you’re mixing statistics with different definitions, numerators and denominators, and presenting them as if they’re comparable, which they’re not.

There’s an important difference between an airline pilot or healthcare worker making a mistake and the premeditated intent - malfeasance, as you put it - of deliberately killing people under their charge. A more appropriate comparison would be between Letby and the pilot of the flight who locked his Co-pilot out of and flight deck and crashed his aircraft into the sea.

When a pilot decides to crash, the result is pretty much always mass death, but in healthcare there are frequently only short periods of time when the bad actor is alone in which they can harm their patient, and the harm is often not fatal, as we saw with Letby.

Letby won’t be the last healthcare mass murderer, and I expect we will see another murdering pilot. They just change their MO. Systems learn from mistakes.

And you mention a statistic comparing the risk of dying on a flight with the risk of suffering an adverse event. They’re clearly not the same. Most AES and non-intentional and only a tiny fraction are fatal. And yes I’m aware of the “two jumbo jets a day” headline, but that again is eye catching but misleading.

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Micol Ascoli's avatar

While in general agreement with the point you are making (in a nutshell, that the blame culture is bad for patients safety and the inevitability of hindsight) I consider it a gross understatement to say “imagine one consultant drops in your office one day and states there is a nurse who is a serial killer”. This is not what happened. What happened was that 7 consultant pediatricians were expressing concerns over a prolonged period of time based on nursing shifts patterns, increased mortality rates and clinical incidents which were identified as sudden and unexpected. The way they were bullied by managers, as evidenced by emails shown on BBC, was disgraceful. If we are to promote a speak up, blame free culture, we need to ensure that those who speak up are listened to. Letby was eventually assigned to non clinical duties and the mysterious incidents ceased. Police, however, was not called for many more months. The concerned consultants could also have gone to the police themselves, like any private citizen would do if they strongly suspect criminal activities around them. Attention to systems doesn’t mean that personal accountability should not exist.

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